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	<title>Comments on: WebSphere DataPower vs WebSphere Enterprise Service Bus</title>
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	<description>Business Integration and SOA with an IBM WebSphere slant</description>
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		<title>By: Arnold</title>
		<link>http://blog.danzrobok.com/2008/03/18/websphere-datapower-vs-websphere-enterprise-service-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-20152</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I question this comment - You don’t have a nice candy-coated UI like WebSphere Integration Developer...

You can use eclipse or xmlspy w/ plugin to develop and unit-test your xslt&#039;s AND you get the web-gui interface for configuring your policies... my $0.02 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I question this comment &#8211; You don’t have a nice candy-coated UI like WebSphere Integration Developer&#8230;</p>
<p>You can use eclipse or xmlspy w/ plugin to develop and unit-test your xslt&#8217;s AND you get the web-gui interface for configuring your policies&#8230; my $0.02 <img src='http://blog.danzrobok.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ozialien</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozialien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First things first: IBM is selling a topology not a general purpose platform for ESB.  Its not in their interest to sell you the ideal platform running on any architecture.

WebsphereESB is a SCA Activation inside an EJB.  So the threading model and all resource contention are within the constructs of an EJB.

Websphere ESB seems to have a hard problem correlating  Async to Sync requests. Protocols are limited.

DataPower seems to have better management with less Protocols, and higher Low Latency Model (LLM) performance.

Its hard to find a polished SEDA scheduler based model for ESB.  Although if your willing to put up with a Beta capability in managing your App, or writing your own JMX controllers there are plenty.

Wikipedia has a good review of all of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First things first: IBM is selling a topology not a general purpose platform for ESB.  Its not in their interest to sell you the ideal platform running on any architecture.</p>
<p>WebsphereESB is a SCA Activation inside an EJB.  So the threading model and all resource contention are within the constructs of an EJB.</p>
<p>Websphere ESB seems to have a hard problem correlating  Async to Sync requests. Protocols are limited.</p>
<p>DataPower seems to have better management with less Protocols, and higher Low Latency Model (LLM) performance.</p>
<p>Its hard to find a polished SEDA scheduler based model for ESB.  Although if your willing to put up with a Beta capability in managing your App, or writing your own JMX controllers there are plenty.</p>
<p>Wikipedia has a good review of all of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Giovanni</title>
		<link>http://blog.danzrobok.com/2008/03/18/websphere-datapower-vs-websphere-enterprise-service-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-9002</link>
		<dc:creator>Giovanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we have DataPower as the entry point for the EAI layer. One of the products sitting behind it is Message Broker.

Now, I understand DataPower&#039;s capabilities and what Message Broker can do. But I&#039;m not 100% sure where WESB or Process Server fits. Could you elaborate on that? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we have DataPower as the entry point for the EAI layer. One of the products sitting behind it is Message Broker.</p>
<p>Now, I understand DataPower&#8217;s capabilities and what Message Broker can do. But I&#8217;m not 100% sure where WESB or Process Server fits. Could you elaborate on that? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Prem</title>
		<link>http://blog.danzrobok.com/2008/03/18/websphere-datapower-vs-websphere-enterprise-service-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been following Joe Natoli&#039;s blog from intel. (http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/08/11/does-a-soa-soft-appliance-an-esb/). Interesting question to consider - if you can get the equivalent or better performance that comes from IBM&#039;s hardware appliance(as listed above) but on general purpose x86 platform, AND, you get the flexibility to address some of the weak points listed - would hardware appliance still be preferred? Would be interested to know the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following Joe Natoli&#8217;s blog from intel. (<a href="http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/08/11/does-a-soa-soft-appliance-an-esb/" rel="nofollow">http://softwareblogs.intel.com/2008/08/11/does-a-soa-soft-appliance-an-esb/</a>). Interesting question to consider &#8211; if you can get the equivalent or better performance that comes from IBM&#8217;s hardware appliance(as listed above) but on general purpose x86 platform, AND, you get the flexibility to address some of the weak points listed &#8211; would hardware appliance still be preferred? Would be interested to know the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Albert, 

All my experiences come from IBM products because I have access to them via IBM PartnerWorld to play around with. Unfortunately, this means I don&#039;t get exposure to any non-IBM products that compete in the same space, so I don&#039;t have any opinion on Intel&#039;s offering. 

These network &#039;xml devices&#039; really interest me. I&#039;m curious to see how they continue to be marketed and how they will contain feature creep to retain performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Albert, </p>
<p>All my experiences come from IBM products because I have access to them via IBM PartnerWorld to play around with. Unfortunately, this means I don&#8217;t get exposure to any non-IBM products that compete in the same space, so I don&#8217;t have any opinion on Intel&#8217;s offering. </p>
<p>These network &#8216;xml devices&#8217; really interest me. I&#8217;m curious to see how they continue to be marketed and how they will contain feature creep to retain performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post and analysis of a datapower.  Have you looked at all at the Intel SOA Expressway?  I saw the activity this week and my understanding is it is based off technology from a former competitor of Datapower.  Was interested to hear what you thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post and analysis of a datapower.  Have you looked at all at the Intel SOA Expressway?  I saw the activity this week and my understanding is it is based off technology from a former competitor of Datapower.  Was interested to hear what you thought.</p>
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